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	<title>Comments on: Kia Ray plug-in hybrid concept car to debut at Chicago Auto Show</title>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Sportage shots are out!
Looks..hmm... sporty ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Sportage shots are out!<br />
Looks..hmm&#8230; sporty ^^</p>
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		<title>By: HyundaiSmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>HyundaiSmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do jtz, its very strange</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do jtz, its very strange</p>
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		<title>By: Greg.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7398 MY2011 Sorento sales in January. That is astonishing. That is more than 2x all of the other vehicles, except the Forte - but it came close. I would be excited, but the initial shock is still overcoming me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7398 MY2011 Sorento sales in January. That is astonishing. That is more than 2x all of the other vehicles, except the Forte &#8211; but it came close. I would be excited, but the initial shock is still overcoming me.</p>
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		<title>By: jtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HyundaiSmoke, don&#039;t you find it quite strange that all the models (including Hyundai) that share the Rio&#039;s platform is either on sale or been caught on spy shots eccept the Rio itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HyundaiSmoke, don&#8217;t you find it quite strange that all the models (including Hyundai) that share the Rio&#8217;s platform is either on sale or been caught on spy shots eccept the Rio itself?</p>
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		<title>By: HyundaiSmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>HyundaiSmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about it, the more I think that&#039;s the kind of energy and excitement the Rio needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about it, the more I think that&#8217;s the kind of energy and excitement the Rio needs.</p>
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		<title>By: HyundaiSmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>HyundaiSmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Rio 3 door  based on the Kee would be the best thing ever for that car.  THAT WOULD BE SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Rio 3 door  based on the Kee would be the best thing ever for that car.  THAT WOULD BE SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bornloser...I never globbed on ta the Detroit full-on V8 muscle-car loud engine exhaust excitement bandwagon too much.  Headers and cherry bomb mufflers and all. I&#039;m now and have been for a long time fully in to the finely detailed Japanese and Korean cars and all of their exactness and, well...quietness. I am starting to dig the new 2010 Suzuki Kizashi midsize, and as of now Suzuki only builds them with 4-cyl 180hp engines, and yes, they&#039;re built internal combustion. Fine by me with all of that. So, I say I want an all-electrical rig for my next car-yet now I&#039;m defying that by falling for ICE cars of different flavors. This Kizashi does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds with the standard 6-speed tranny and I like it&#039;s Jetta-like exterior. The one I like, the GTS, comes in at $23,334 MSRP and is being classified as a midsize car. Now, is Suzuki gonna be around ta service this pup, though? Suzuki gives a 7 year, 100,000 miles limited powertrain Warranty. I do this every so many months, I get all stoked about a certain rig. Probly won&#039;t really pursue the Suzuki Kizashi...right now, anyway.  =:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bornloser&#8230;I never globbed on ta the Detroit full-on V8 muscle-car loud engine exhaust excitement bandwagon too much.  Headers and cherry bomb mufflers and all. I&#8217;m now and have been for a long time fully in to the finely detailed Japanese and Korean cars and all of their exactness and, well&#8230;quietness. I am starting to dig the new 2010 Suzuki Kizashi midsize, and as of now Suzuki only builds them with 4-cyl 180hp engines, and yes, they&#8217;re built internal combustion. Fine by me with all of that. So, I say I want an all-electrical rig for my next car-yet now I&#8217;m defying that by falling for ICE cars of different flavors. This Kizashi does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds with the standard 6-speed tranny and I like it&#8217;s Jetta-like exterior. The one I like, the GTS, comes in at $23,334 MSRP and is being classified as a midsize car. Now, is Suzuki gonna be around ta service this pup, though? Suzuki gives a 7 year, 100,000 miles limited powertrain Warranty. I do this every so many months, I get all stoked about a certain rig. Probly won&#8217;t really pursue the Suzuki Kizashi&#8230;right now, anyway.  =:)</p>
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		<title>By: bornloser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bornloser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan, I honestly hope you&#039;re right that ICE will be along for a long time... Even if it was only &#039;bout the sound a nice V6 or V8 makes... I really can&#039;t imagine a muscle car (or an Italian full bred) with an electrical engine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan, I honestly hope you&#8217;re right that ICE will be along for a long time&#8230; Even if it was only &#8217;bout the sound a nice V6 or V8 makes&#8230; I really can&#8217;t imagine a muscle car (or an Italian full bred) with an electrical engine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, I&#039;m all mouse, eyes and ears. I want to make this conservation deal work, not make things worse. I&#039;m willing to try some new things, but just continuing to build ICE vehicles for the next 50 years is not gonna cut it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, I&#8217;m all mouse, eyes and ears. I want to make this conservation deal work, not make things worse. I&#8217;m willing to try some new things, but just continuing to build ICE vehicles for the next 50 years is not gonna cut it.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I think Hydrogen is the future, but there are a lot of problems related to that.
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First, infrastructure. Where do you go to get hydrogen? I suppose that if hydrogen cars begin to get popular, hydrogen stations will pop up. It happened over 100 years ago with gasoline, it can happen again.
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Second, supply. We have to figure out how to get hydrogen more efficiently. Right now, it comes from natural gas primarily, a fossil fuel. I suppose that if we can&#039;t get over this obstacle, we are right back where we started. 
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Third, technology. We have to make hydrogen technology cheaper, smaller, and better. Kia is doing it, and doing it well from what I can tell. We will see a lot of &quot;Unknown Kia&quot; spyshots of Kia testing their hydrogen technology in all of their vehicles. How far is Kia going to get if they have hydrogen power in only  one of their vehicles? About as far as Honda&#039;s getting with the FCX Clarity. 
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If hydrogen turns out to be no good, and we must rely on all-electrics; we can&#039;t solve our problem with just all-electric vehicles. All electric vehicles will start plugging into home outlets, and increase out need for coal - another fossil fuel. 
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Wind energy. If we have to go with all electric vehicles, let me make a suggestion. In my city, Manistee, MI, we manufacture a product called a Windspire. It is a vertical wind turbine that is 30 feet tall, and 4 feet wide. It produces 2000 kilowatt hours per year - enough to charge a vehicle. These Windspires are made of 69% recycled material, and generally cost $5,500 to $6,500 for everything. Everything includes the Windspire, the installation, permits, and installation to the local grid. If manufacturers sold a Windspire with every all-electric car, all-electric could work. I will post a link below. It may take a bit for himi to publish my post with a link to the blog, that&#039;s why I&#039;m not putting it in this post :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think Hydrogen is the future, but there are a lot of problems related to that.<br />
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First, infrastructure. Where do you go to get hydrogen? I suppose that if hydrogen cars begin to get popular, hydrogen stations will pop up. It happened over 100 years ago with gasoline, it can happen again.<br />
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Second, supply. We have to figure out how to get hydrogen more efficiently. Right now, it comes from natural gas primarily, a fossil fuel. I suppose that if we can&#8217;t get over this obstacle, we are right back where we started.<br />
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Third, technology. We have to make hydrogen technology cheaper, smaller, and better. Kia is doing it, and doing it well from what I can tell. We will see a lot of &#8220;Unknown Kia&#8221; spyshots of Kia testing their hydrogen technology in all of their vehicles. How far is Kia going to get if they have hydrogen power in only  one of their vehicles? About as far as Honda&#8217;s getting with the FCX Clarity.<br />
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If hydrogen turns out to be no good, and we must rely on all-electrics; we can&#8217;t solve our problem with just all-electric vehicles. All electric vehicles will start plugging into home outlets, and increase out need for coal &#8211; another fossil fuel.<br />
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Wind energy. If we have to go with all electric vehicles, let me make a suggestion. In my city, Manistee, MI, we manufacture a product called a Windspire. It is a vertical wind turbine that is 30 feet tall, and 4 feet wide. It produces 2000 kilowatt hours per year &#8211; enough to charge a vehicle. These Windspires are made of 69% recycled material, and generally cost $5,500 to $6,500 for everything. Everything includes the Windspire, the installation, permits, and installation to the local grid. If manufacturers sold a Windspire with every all-electric car, all-electric could work. I will post a link below. It may take a bit for himi to publish my post with a link to the blog, that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m not putting it in this post <img src='http://www.kia-world.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: HyundaiSmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>HyundaiSmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching some show and some analyst said ICEs could be around until 2050.  Guys,let me explain Further, Gas/Diesel Hybrids are stop gaps between ICEs and AEP.  They arent the solution, just a tool to get us there,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching some show and some analyst said ICEs could be around until 2050.  Guys,let me explain Further, Gas/Diesel Hybrids are stop gaps between ICEs and AEP.  They arent the solution, just a tool to get us there,</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bornloser-yes, all-electrical propulsion is the future in automobile propulsion. I agree. But ICE vehicles won&#039;t actually disappear for a long time, if ever completely. Don&#039;t cha agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bornloser-yes, all-electrical propulsion is the future in automobile propulsion. I agree. But ICE vehicles won&#8217;t actually disappear for a long time, if ever completely. Don&#8217;t cha agree?</p>
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		<title>By: bornloser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bornloser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hybrid car has no long term future... the real future is for the full time electrical motorcar. I honestly think the combustion engine  (unfortunately) only has more or less 20 years left</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hybrid car has no long term future&#8230; the real future is for the full time electrical motorcar. I honestly think the combustion engine  (unfortunately) only has more or less 20 years left</p>
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		<title>By: HyundaiSmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>HyundaiSmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hybrid is America&#039;s Diesel, and Diesels are Europe&#039;s Hybrids.  Gas Hybrid=not going to work in Europe, but if priced right, and feels right and gets great MPG will do great in the US.  Diesel Hybrid=not even a possibility for the US market, but will do great in Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hybrid is America&#8217;s Diesel, and Diesels are Europe&#8217;s Hybrids.  Gas Hybrid=not going to work in Europe, but if priced right, and feels right and gets great MPG will do great in the US.  Diesel Hybrid=not even a possibility for the US market, but will do great in Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PSA (Peugeot / Citroen) is the one bringing the diesel+hybrid with 140hp, to market this year. But atm it has a co2 output of 99g/km, which is more (=worse) than the current Prius...
I&#039;d rather hope for the new Ray, or an updated Forte LPI Hybrid...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PSA (Peugeot / Citroen) is the one bringing the diesel+hybrid with 140hp, to market this year. But atm it has a co2 output of 99g/km, which is more (=worse) than the current Prius&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;d rather hope for the new Ray, or an updated Forte LPI Hybrid&#8230;</p>
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