Comments on: NAIAS 2009; Kia to unveil Soul based concept – a pick up Soul?

By: BJD(Boris)

BJD(Boris) — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:25:22 +0000

—–I see that spme don’t want to see a 3 door but to som……—–
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Its not that we don’t wanna see a 3 door soul. its that we think Kia should just include a 3-door on the outgoing model without wasting money on a 3 door concept first.

By: themtnman

themtnman — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:43:21 +0000

I see that spme don’t want to see a 3 door but to some they are quite practical, Examples are that some of us are a bit handicapped and the extra space used for the door really helps getting in and out, This is specially true with my wife who can’t bend her legs nuch at all and had to slid way over almost in the drivers seat of our outback to get in.

There are quite a few people that this would help.

That being said I for one really like a 3 door better that a 5 door for about everything we use a car for, personally I think they are more practical as most trips are with only one or two people anyway.

And yes I would like to see a diesel also as a old truck company owner I can tell you that usually a diesel will out last a gas engine at least 2 or closer to 3 to one even if only slightly maintained and they for sure get better mileage plus with a TURBO or even a good supercherger for boust they have about the power to weight ratio. But a diesel to be effecient would need at least a 5 speed transmission 6 speed would be better if you learn to keep it in the power band.

I also think that a pickup in this size range would be great as after we sold our trucking company we were in a service business for about 20 yeras and only needed a VERY small pickup that we could put a overhead ladder rack and side boxes or even a small cross body box on but there were none available. The things that are built in the us usually only get about 8 or 9 MPG when used daily in city traffic so it always cost our customers a premium for a service call. Now with fuel prices it would be even worse.

Just some thoughts from themtnman@toast.net

By: Cliff Dillmann

Cliff Dillmann — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:41:24 +0000

A deal breaker for some of us would be 1500 pound trailer towing capacity.

Diesel would also be great. The two together would permit economical vacationing with good road mileage and a economical car with a difference for home and work.

By: BJD(Boris)

BJD(Boris) — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:20:04 +0000

haha, Nemo’s got some spark! I like it. well its probably the colours on it that made me like it but I do like it. Kangoo… well, lets just leave it alone. Alright, I’m convinced. Soul could complement Kia through this segment. but if they make it, they’d be better off selling it in europe like you say.

By: Bornloser

Bornloser — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:17:10 +0000

As I said: it’s not the most sexy vehicule (click on my name), but Europeans love the practicality of it!
And if you thought the Kangoo was Goofy… here’s the Citroën Nemo: http://media.nextautos.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/citroen-nemo-concettohl.jpg

By: BJD(Boris)

BJD(Boris) — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:50:27 +0000

I know what kangoo is. A really goofy looking vehicle. I’d hate to see Kia trying to compete with that thing… especially when people know who Kia’s chief designer is.

By: Bornloser

Bornloser — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:05:30 +0000

JTZ, I’m not talking ’bout the “cee’d Plus”… There have always been rumors of a Soul Minvan like the Kangoo, Opel Combo, Fiat Fiorino, Ford Tourneo and to some extend the Skoda Roomster.
These models are getting more & more popular in Europe and this segment is dominated by European brands… They’re not the most sexy vehicules, but reasonably priced, good MPG and CO2 emisions and extremely practical…

By: BJD(Boris)

BJD(Boris) — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:46:49 +0000

don’t you think its better if Kia doesn’t reveal concepts waaaay before the actual motorshow unveiling? cuz this will get people more excited about seeing the car. revealing it now will just excite everyone now itself and then seeing the car at the motorshow will feel like, “I’ve seen it a hundred times already… looks cool anyway…”. now I wouldn’t want that

By: Greg

Greg — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:05:00 +0000

Kia hates us. That is why. That new Equinox is fugly anyway. The government gives them all that money, and instead of producing a good looking car, they produce ugly shit that no one will want!! What is the point of the “Car czar” if they are letting the companies produce ugly garbage!?

By: JTZ

JTZ — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:27:26 +0000

Bornloser: Are you talking about that cee’d plus? I hope not too. That’s only supposed to be for Europe think. They can keep that. While other manufactorers show the entire photos of concepts or new models, we have to wait. GM already has photos of the new Equinox but the Sorento is still in the ugly dress. What’s up that?

By: BJD(Boris)

BJD(Boris) — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:08:10 +0000

I hope not.

By: Bornloser

Bornloser — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:59:40 +0000

There have been rumors of an Soul “van” not unsimilar to renault Kangoo, VW Caddy, Citroen Berlingo in the past…
Could this be it?

By: Greg

Greg — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:43:42 +0000

184HP in a pickup? Albeit a small pick up, but still. .2 isn’t much more of a displacement.

By: Kia Sales

Kia Sales — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:23:08 +0000

Just an FYI: The Soul’s are in all the Michigan dealerships now. Can’t be sold but you can get a good look at the vehicle.

By: BJD(Boris)

BJD(Boris) — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:04:39 +0000

The Beta was good with turbo’s. I mean Is good, [cuz it seems Kia isn't dumping the engine but instead using it in the soul which was supposed to have the theta]