Comments on: Video: Four exciting Kia concepts at the green zone in Paris http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/ The # 1 Kia owners blog! Feel free to read latest news on new Kia cars: Soul, Optima, Forte Koup, Cadenza, Borrego, Sportage, Rio, Rondo and other Kia cars. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:23:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ksport(Boris) http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6651 Ksport(Boris) Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:11:42 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6651 O I really hope soul gets ISG too. according to the fuel consumption figures and the tank size provided on the korean site, the 1.6 gasoline should have a range of 660km and the 2.oL 600km O I really hope soul gets ISG too. according to the fuel consumption figures and the tank size provided on the korean site, the 1.6 gasoline should have a range of 660km and the 2.oL 600km

]]> By: himi http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6646 himi Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:42:53 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6646 Hi Michael! Thanks for your great report! How is at the show? - I'm really excited about the ISG Kias! You're starting production of the cee'd ISG in December already, so Kia is going to be among the first manufacturers to offer the stop and go technology,right. There's only BMW that offers it in the 3 and 1 series at the moment, I think. -Will the ISG technology be expanded to other Kia cars to. Perhaps to the Soul? - Regarding your report; I'm aware that the fuel cell cars are the future of the cars, but more time will be needed to provide all needed infrastructure. What will be the estimated price of fuel cell cars from the start? Around 30-40 Grand? Hi Michael! Thanks for your great report!

How is at the show?

- I’m really excited about the ISG Kias! You’re starting production of the cee’d ISG in December already, so Kia is going to be among the first manufacturers to offer the stop and go technology,right. There’s only BMW that offers it in the 3 and 1 series at the moment, I think.

-Will the ISG technology be expanded to other Kia cars to. Perhaps to the Soul?

- Regarding your report; I’m aware that the fuel cell cars are the future of the cars, but more time will be needed to provide all needed infrastructure. What will be the estimated price of fuel cell cars from the start? Around 30-40 Grand?

]]> By: Michael http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6628 Michael Sun, 05 Oct 2008 10:14:53 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6628 Hi everyone, Actually, I said (or meant to say as I may have flubbed my words) that it will be "commercially viable" by 2010, meaning that we should have the ability at that time for small scale commercial production. But we also feel that it will be some time well after 2010 that market demand, refueling infrastructure, etc. will reach a point where we would make a business decision to do manufacture it for pubclic consumption. Great blog here! And thanks for all of your interest and support. Hi everyone,

Actually, I said (or meant to say as I may have flubbed my words) that it will be “commercially viable” by 2010, meaning that we should have the ability at that time for small scale commercial production. But we also feel that it will be some time well after 2010 that market demand, refueling infrastructure, etc. will reach a point where we would make a business decision to do manufacture it for pubclic consumption.

Great blog here! And thanks for all of your interest and support.

]]> By: Ksport(Boris) http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6615 Ksport(Boris) Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:03:56 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6615 <i>OK</i> , so I finally got the da*n video to work. quiet nice to see through the acrylic bonnet. ANyway, he did say the sportage FCEV will be commercially available by 2010. I dont think thats as early as it feels cuz honda has already got their FCEV for leases. They might do the same with the Sportage FCEV. just keep it for lease in places which have hydrogen stations. They are already in low volume production, if I've heard correctly, for the South Korean government or somethin. Its really amazing and literally unbelievable that Hydrogen FCEVs are gonna become reality so soon after hearing about them only for the past few years. OK , so I finally got the da*n video to work. quiet nice to see through the acrylic bonnet. ANyway, he did say the sportage FCEV will be commercially available by 2010. I dont think thats as early as it feels cuz honda has already got their FCEV for leases. They might do the same with the Sportage FCEV. just keep it for lease in places which have hydrogen stations. They are already in low volume production, if I’ve heard correctly, for the South Korean government or somethin. Its really amazing and literally unbelievable that Hydrogen FCEVs are gonna become reality so soon after hearing about them only for the past few years.

]]> By: Ksport(Boris) http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6591 Ksport(Boris) Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:34:27 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6591 ISG engines are like electric motors. they dont start like how the car starts at ignition once you stop and accelerate. the pistons are stopped in such a position that they move like they never stopped once you hit the accelerator. SO you wont have a delay in acceleration. ISG engines are like electric motors. they dont start like how the car starts at ignition once you stop and accelerate. the pistons are stopped in such a position that they move like they never stopped once you hit the accelerator. SO you wont have a delay in acceleration.

]]> By: Carolyn http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6589 Carolyn Fri, 03 Oct 2008 03:26:16 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6589 I have to say, I'm wary of the ISG idea. If the vehicle shuts off when I stop at a corner, for example, and I need to get into tight traffic, is there going to be a lag between pressing the accelerator pedal and the car taking motion? If so, that could be tricky to time and could be extremely inconvenient in cities where you sometimes have to zip rather than proceed slowly. It could be a real pain in bumper-to-bumper stop-and-go traffic, too. I may have to buy a Soul sooner rather than later - I was holding out for a hybrid, but I can't imagine wanting one if the ISG is as bad as I fear it could be... I have to say, I’m wary of the ISG idea. If the vehicle shuts off when I stop at a corner, for example, and I need to get into tight traffic, is there going to be a lag between pressing the accelerator pedal and the car taking motion? If so, that could be tricky to time and could be extremely inconvenient in cities where you sometimes have to zip rather than proceed slowly. It could be a real pain in bumper-to-bumper stop-and-go traffic, too.

I may have to buy a Soul sooner rather than later – I was holding out for a hybrid, but I can’t imagine wanting one if the ISG is as bad as I fear it could be…

]]> By: Greg http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6586 Greg Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:52:39 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6586 Didn't that guy say FCEV Sportage was ready for production around 2010, or did I hear that wrong? Didn’t that guy say FCEV Sportage was ready for production around 2010, or did I hear that wrong?

]]> By: Bancho http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6585 Bancho Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:37:18 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6585 I used to think hybrids were "dumb" too, until I got to spend some extended seat time in as a passenger and behind the wheel. Hybrids can use alternative fuels. A manufacturer could pair their hybrid system with any type of engine they wish. They could pair it with a fuel cell, or an engine optimized for different fuels like ethanol, diesel, biodiesel, CNG, etc... They currently pair them with gasoline powered engines because....surprise! There are gas stations everywhere! Until there is a widespread distribution system for alternative fuels there will be less choice for vehicles that actually use alternative fuels (chickens and eggs...). Hybrids (at least Honda and Toyota's) are cost effective and do save money, especially in congested traffic. On longer commutes with a lot of highway miles their advantage decreases, but doesn't disappear. I'm not sure if I'd be intrested in a hybrid as my next vehicle, but I do know that I won't dismiss them out of hand after my experience with them. (personally, I'm interested in possibly replacing my current vehicle with the Forte/Spectra when it arrives stateside) I used to think hybrids were “dumb” too, until I got to spend some extended seat time in as a passenger and behind the wheel.

Hybrids can use alternative fuels. A manufacturer could pair their hybrid system with any type of engine they wish. They could pair it with a fuel cell, or an engine optimized for different fuels like ethanol, diesel, biodiesel, CNG, etc… They currently pair them with gasoline powered engines because….surprise! There are gas stations everywhere! Until there is a widespread distribution system for alternative fuels there will be less choice for vehicles that actually use alternative fuels (chickens and eggs…).

Hybrids (at least Honda and Toyota’s) are cost effective and do save money, especially in congested traffic. On longer commutes with a lot of highway miles their advantage decreases, but doesn’t disappear. I’m not sure if I’d be intrested in a hybrid as my next vehicle, but I do know that I won’t dismiss them out of hand after my experience with them. (personally, I’m interested in possibly replacing my current vehicle with the Forte/Spectra when it arrives stateside)

]]> By: Martin1491 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6584 Martin1491 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:42:50 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6584 In my opinion, Hybrids are dumb, for the most part, they arent that much more economical and they still use petrol, so basically they just delay the inebidable that (so we are told) oil reserves are going to run out. Kia should really be looking at alternative and reusable fuels for their cars, get ahead of most of the competition who are wasting their time with hybrids. In my opinion, Hybrids are dumb, for the most part, they arent that much more economical and they still use petrol, so basically they just delay the inebidable that (so we are told) oil reserves are going to run out. Kia should really be looking at alternative and reusable fuels for their cars, get ahead of most of the competition who are wasting their time with hybrids.

]]> By: Ksport(Boris) http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6578 Ksport(Boris) Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:18:00 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6578 adding solar panels and a small fan attached to a gererator can charege the battery as you drive. not to mention regenerative braking. And there is a lot of research going on to make long range electric cars. but as I said. developing a hybrid is not at all a waste of money. adding solar panels and a small fan attached to a gererator can charege the battery as you drive. not to mention regenerative braking. And there is a lot of research going on to make long range electric cars. but as I said. developing a hybrid is not at all a waste of money.

]]> By: himi http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6577 himi Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:17:16 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6577 True on that Boris! But fuel cell powered cars will not become into mass production until 2020. That's about 20 years and in that time, all kind of hybrids will hit the streets. And people will buy them, so Kia has to unveil as many hybrids as possible and keep developing the fuel cell powered cars. I wish they could bring something like chevy Volt, (but better looking) to the market, Or atleast a model or two similar to Toyota Prius and Honda Insight. True on that Boris! But fuel cell powered cars will not become into mass production until 2020. That’s about 20 years and in that time, all kind of hybrids will hit the streets. And people will buy them, so Kia has to unveil as many hybrids as possible and keep developing the fuel cell powered cars.
I wish they could bring something like chevy Volt, (but better looking) to the market, Or atleast a model or two similar to Toyota Prius and Honda Insight.

]]> By: Bancho http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6576 Bancho Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:13:16 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6576 Hybrids are superior in some respects to all-electric vehicles in that their range can be instantly extended via filing with fuel. An all-electric is best used as a commuter depending on its range and the ability to charge away from home. It's much more restrictive in its use than a hybrid. This is not a zero sun game where a single solution will rule the day. Kia is wise to get some hybrid experience under their belt. Hybrids are superior in some respects to all-electric vehicles in that their range can be instantly extended via filing with fuel. An all-electric is best used as a commuter depending on its range and the ability to charge away from home. It’s much more restrictive in its use than a hybrid. This is not a zero sun game where a single solution will rule the day. Kia is wise to get some hybrid experience under their belt.

]]> By: Ksport(Boris) http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6573 Ksport(Boris) Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:39:58 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6573 hybrids isnt what Kia should be concentrating on now. As I've noticed. hybrids' days are numbered as all-electric cars take over in eco segment. hope Kia notices this too. FCEV is a great step to be secure in the future cuz that will probably be the next big thing once hydrogen is more abundunly available. Not saying the ISG and hybrid is a waste of money. infact its great for the present and also a good thing it will be available soon. hybrids isnt what Kia should be concentrating on now. As I’ve noticed. hybrids’ days are numbered as all-electric cars take over in eco segment. hope Kia notices this too. FCEV is a great step to be secure in the future cuz that will probably be the next big thing once hydrogen is more abundunly available. Not saying the ISG and hybrid is a waste of money. infact its great for the present and also a good thing it will be available soon.

]]> By: himi http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/comment-page-1/#comment-6571 himi Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:29:45 +0000 http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/10/02/video-four-exciting-kia-concepts-at-the-green-zone-in-paris/#comment-6571 Great news about cee'd ISG. Unlike all others, it's coming to production very soon! I wish Kia had made more progress with hybrids. Hope they speed this up and bring more cars like Honda Insight, which just made it's debut in Paris! Great news about cee’d ISG. Unlike all others, it’s coming to production very soon! I wish Kia had made more progress with hybrids. Hope they speed this up and bring more cars like Honda Insight, which just made it’s debut in Paris!

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