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	<title>Comments on: Death Valley: 2010 Kia VG sedan spied</title>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have fine grammar. I have never been to New York, nor do I plan too. I don&#039;t like all the rude snobs that live there. Actually, I have heard that most of the North East is full of rude discourteous drivers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have fine grammar. I have never been to New York, nor do I plan too. I don&#8217;t like all the rude snobs that live there. Actually, I have heard that most of the North East is full of rude discourteous drivers!</p>
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		<title>By: JTZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just thought of something.  If you&#039;re right about a compact pick up (I still think it&#039;s risky though) then maybe a concept version will be at the NAIAS.  Maybe?  P.S.  If you want to see a Azera in person go to New York.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just thought of something.  If you&#8217;re right about a compact pick up (I still think it&#8217;s risky though) then maybe a concept version will be at the NAIAS.  Maybe?  P.S.  If you want to see a Azera in person go to New York.</p>
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		<title>By: JTZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You hardly see Azeras too huh Greg?  That&#039;s a lot of information.  With the Fuel Cell Borrego I wouldn&#039;t be surprised about a bof Pick Up off that platform.  P.S. How&#039;s my grammer Greg?  Can you understand me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You hardly see Azeras too huh Greg?  That&#8217;s a lot of information.  With the Fuel Cell Borrego I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised about a bof Pick Up off that platform.  P.S. How&#8217;s my grammer Greg?  Can you understand me?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell, I have never even seen an Azera in real life. Only pictures. Same with Veracruz, Genesis, Entourage, Accent, and Tuscon. Which is pretty sad considering I see TONS of Kias, and the Hyundai dealership is closer than the Kia dealership. Maybe this car is the CH (Amanti replacement) and the VG will be Optima replacement in a few years. The main frame/design structure has been used on the Optima only for three years, while the Amanti&#039;s frame/design structure has been the same since 2004 with only a single face lift. What this is is CH and VG will come in about two years, when Optima&#039;s cycle is over. Here is what we will see during 2009 (2010 models-projected) Borrego:no change, just debuted; Sedona: Mid-cycle refresh; Sorento: New frame/design structure released; Sportage: no change; Rondo: Mid-cycle refresh; Amanti: CH design comes out; Optima: no change; Spectra: Forte design newly released; Soul: no change; Rio/Rio5: Mid-cycle refresh. Here is what we will see during 2010 (2011 models-projected) Borrego: no change; Sedona: no change; Sorento: no change; Sportage: New frame/design structure released; Rondo: no change; Amanti: no change; Optima: no change; Spectra: no change; Soul: no change; Rio/Rio5: no change. Spy shots we will see in 2010: VG which we will see as new Optima in 2011 as 2012 model; face lift Borrego; new Sedona which will be released in 2011 as 2012 model; Spectra face lift; Soul face lift; new Rio/Rio5 which will be released in 2011 as a 2012 model. THIS IS HAPPENING FOR REAL: Kia is developing a compact pick-up truck under the code name XN, based on 2010 Sorento platform and design. XN will feature Kia&#039;s 2.2L clean diesel as standard engine. Other engines may or may not be available depending on market. A mid-sized pickup (HN) with design based on face-lifted Borrego and the Borrego&#039;s BOF platform may or may not be released in 2012. If it was released, Kia stated that it would come with the new 3.0L clean diesel standard, and may include 4.6L V8 as an Option. We will see what happens. For now Kia says this, &quot;Right now, the compact pick-up market is dominated by over priced domestic vehicles, and reasonably priced foreign vehicles with bogus options and standard features. What we would do is create a reasonable priced pick-up that would come with loads of standard features with a fuel efficient engine that would dominate the market.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, I have never even seen an Azera in real life. Only pictures. Same with Veracruz, Genesis, Entourage, Accent, and Tuscon. Which is pretty sad considering I see TONS of Kias, and the Hyundai dealership is closer than the Kia dealership. Maybe this car is the CH (Amanti replacement) and the VG will be Optima replacement in a few years. The main frame/design structure has been used on the Optima only for three years, while the Amanti&#8217;s frame/design structure has been the same since 2004 with only a single face lift. What this is is CH and VG will come in about two years, when Optima&#8217;s cycle is over. Here is what we will see during 2009 (2010 models-projected) Borrego:no change, just debuted; Sedona: Mid-cycle refresh; Sorento: New frame/design structure released; Sportage: no change; Rondo: Mid-cycle refresh; Amanti: CH design comes out; Optima: no change; Spectra: Forte design newly released; Soul: no change; Rio/Rio5: Mid-cycle refresh. Here is what we will see during 2010 (2011 models-projected) Borrego: no change; Sedona: no change; Sorento: no change; Sportage: New frame/design structure released; Rondo: no change; Amanti: no change; Optima: no change; Spectra: no change; Soul: no change; Rio/Rio5: no change. Spy shots we will see in 2010: VG which we will see as new Optima in 2011 as 2012 model; face lift Borrego; new Sedona which will be released in 2011 as 2012 model; Spectra face lift; Soul face lift; new Rio/Rio5 which will be released in 2011 as a 2012 model. THIS IS HAPPENING FOR REAL: Kia is developing a compact pick-up truck under the code name XN, based on 2010 Sorento platform and design. XN will feature Kia&#8217;s 2.2L clean diesel as standard engine. Other engines may or may not be available depending on market. A mid-sized pickup (HN) with design based on face-lifted Borrego and the Borrego&#8217;s BOF platform may or may not be released in 2012. If it was released, Kia stated that it would come with the new 3.0L clean diesel standard, and may include 4.6L V8 as an Option. We will see what happens. For now Kia says this, &#8220;Right now, the compact pick-up market is dominated by over priced domestic vehicles, and reasonably priced foreign vehicles with bogus options and standard features. What we would do is create a reasonable priced pick-up that would come with loads of standard features with a fuel efficient engine that would dominate the market.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JTZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George Smith, not everyone who lives in the States live in New York didn&#039;t you know that?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Smith, not everyone who lives in the States live in New York didn&#8217;t you know that?!</p>
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		<title>By: JTZ</title>
		<link>http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/08/11/death-valley-2010-kia-vg-sedan-spied/comment-page-1/#comment-8149</link>
		<dc:creator>JTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t live in NY I live in Ohio and Azera&#039;s are rare there.  As well as the Veracruz.  So I know what I&#039;m talking about while your putting your entire name on the net.  And I have been in New York and it&#039;s always bumper to bumper traffic.  Your better off walking then wasting gas going no where. And I bet most of those Azera&#039;s are taxis.  My grammer can&#039;t be too bad your responded to my reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t live in NY I live in Ohio and Azera&#8217;s are rare there.  As well as the Veracruz.  So I know what I&#8217;m talking about while your putting your entire name on the net.  And I have been in New York and it&#8217;s always bumper to bumper traffic.  Your better off walking then wasting gas going no where. And I bet most of those Azera&#8217;s are taxis.  My grammer can&#8217;t be too bad your responded to my reply.</p>
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		<title>By: George Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JTZ... not only are you extremely horribe in the grammer department but your comments don&#039;t even make sense. Azera&#039;s are everywhere... Have you been to NY recently... apparently not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JTZ&#8230; not only are you extremely horribe in the grammer department but your comments don&#8217;t even make sense. Azera&#8217;s are everywhere&#8230; Have you been to NY recently&#8230; apparently not.</p>
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		<title>By: JTZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like a direct Pontiac G8 Rival.  This segment from Kia is sorta hard for me to understand between the BH and VG.  I mean most articles say it&#039;s a Azera base car some are saying Genesis.  Some are even saying it&#039;s the Amanti while others are not.  I&#039;m just going to wait until its manufactorer release details.  I HATE rumors.  And I&#039;m not quite understanding the Amanti replacement.  The Amanti is an E segment sedan right.  what letter  segment sedan is this VG supposed to be E or F?  That Amanti replacement is just confusing on account no one really knows if this is two or one segment above the Optima.    It&#039;s obvious it&#039;s replacing the Amanti no matter if this is VG or BH but what segment is the VG and BH (which one is above which one).  That&#039;s what I want to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like a direct Pontiac G8 Rival.  This segment from Kia is sorta hard for me to understand between the BH and VG.  I mean most articles say it&#8217;s a Azera base car some are saying Genesis.  Some are even saying it&#8217;s the Amanti while others are not.  I&#8217;m just going to wait until its manufactorer release details.  I HATE rumors.  And I&#8217;m not quite understanding the Amanti replacement.  The Amanti is an E segment sedan right.  what letter  segment sedan is this VG supposed to be E or F?  That Amanti replacement is just confusing on account no one really knows if this is two or one segment above the Optima.    It&#8217;s obvious it&#8217;s replacing the Amanti no matter if this is VG or BH but what segment is the VG and BH (which one is above which one).  That&#8217;s what I want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: himi</title>
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		<dc:creator>himi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you were right, the VG is an Amanti/Opirus replacement. I&#039;ll let you know more about that tomorrow (now, I go to bed, its 1 AM here)... Cheers!;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you were right, the VG is an Amanti/Opirus replacement. I&#8217;ll let you know more about that tomorrow (now, I go to bed, its 1 AM here)&#8230; Cheers!;)</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would kia really want to stretch that much upmarket?? i think this will be the BH&#039;s brother/sister but without the V8. they&#039;d compensate for the lack of V8s by making it more fun to drive than the Genesis and maybe lighter... hopefully. oh and this is probably a replacement for the Amanti... at least i hope it is... 

but who cars about what i just wrote cos what do i know??? :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would kia really want to stretch that much upmarket?? i think this will be the BH&#8217;s brother/sister but without the V8. they&#8217;d compensate for the lack of V8s by making it more fun to drive than the Genesis and maybe lighter&#8230; hopefully. oh and this is probably a replacement for the Amanti&#8230; at least i hope it is&#8230; </p>
<p>but who cars about what i just wrote cos what do i know??? <img src='http://www.kia-world.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet. It looks bigger than the Amanti. I think that VG will probably be Sporty Amanti, and CH luxury Amanti.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet. It looks bigger than the Amanti. I think that VG will probably be Sporty Amanti, and CH luxury Amanti.</p>
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		<title>By: JTZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Himi, Patrick is 100% right.  This is not an Azera.  Hyundai has another luxury  sedan called the VI.    The VI is expected to have a 4.6L and 5.0L V8 engines.  I&#039;m assuming the VG is sharing this platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Himi, Patrick is 100% right.  This is not an Azera.  Hyundai has another luxury  sedan called the VI.    The VI is expected to have a 4.6L and 5.0L V8 engines.  I&#8217;m assuming the VG is sharing this platform.</p>
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		<title>By: himi</title>
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		<dc:creator>himi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all of you, it looks stunning already although it has the camo all over it.  
Patrick, we might be wrong and at the end it could indeed turn out to be an Amanti successor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all of you, it looks stunning already although it has the camo all over it.<br />
Patrick, we might be wrong and at the end it could indeed turn out to be an Amanti successor.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im still not convinced its the VG cos of the wheels and the door cut lines, etc. and i think its the CH but man this car is turning out nicely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im still not convinced its the VG cos of the wheels and the door cut lines, etc. and i think its the CH but man this car is turning out nicely!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin1491</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin1491</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even with all the camoflauge on this car, it is starting to turn out to be quite a looker!. And look at those kick arse dual exhausts!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even with all the camoflauge on this car, it is starting to turn out to be quite a looker!. And look at those kick arse dual exhausts!!!</p>
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